guys, we will use this google spreadsheet:
Modified by filip on 2018-01-28 15:23:05 Kealah | 2018-01-28 19:43:48 |
Jeronimo | 2018-01-28 21:21:32 |
Nice and modest tournament. Hope to play one more next month. An opinion: I think we shouldn't reset classes while playing tie-breakers. These should only at the beginning of play-offs. Respect the "fast duel" I prefer not to, normal is better for making the maths. Tie-breakers are a continuation of the first stage, so no repeat of classes yet, and normal duel mode. It just doesn't feel right to combine both normal and fast duel modalities. A tournament played enterely (groups, ties, playoffs) in fast duel mode would feel legit tough. Modified by Jeronimo on 2018-01-28 21:33:55 plong_ | 2018-01-29 07:23:36 |
Nice and modest tournament. Hope to play one more next month.
An opinion: I think we shouldn't reset classes while playing tie-breakers. These should only at the beginning of play-offs. Respect the "fast duel" I prefer not to, normal is better for making the maths. Tie-breakers are a continuation of the first stage, so no repeat of classes yet, and normal duel mode.
It just doesn't feel right to combine both normal and fast duel modalities. A tournament played enterely (groups, ties, playoffs) in fast duel mode would feel legit tough. Yeah it was really nice to see some players again. And of course, next tournament will be organized better. Lets create a doodle sheet in advance where every player has to register at least 2 hours before we start, so that the round matches can be determined before the start. And i agree to Jeronimos arguments about class reset and fast duels. Next time, we could ask Cooler to give the best 4 players some experience points as a reward like it was with the old tournys,
Kealah | 2018-01-29 10:18:06 |
PandaWarrior | 2018-01-29 11:36:21 |
I suggest that game rules should also be set in advance(mono, specific, random, fast duel or normal, etc). It will save a lot of time if things are settled beforehand. And tournaments can be held more. :) Btw, can the fast duel time setting be changed?
plynx was sick this time (he had the flu) but he says he wants to participate next time! let's keep this alive guys fuzzer | 2018-01-29 12:49:43 |
I wanted to participate but I was busy..., Who was the winner?
Kealah | 2018-01-29 13:14:49 |
I wanted to participate but I was busy..., Who was the winner? Monstrata.
Monstrata.
obviously an alt account... but who is this?
Modified by filip on 2018-01-29 13:59:58
anyone interested in more info about this tournament can check the google spreadsheet we used above. just scroll up and click on the link i provided (it's in the first post of this topic)
many thanks to Wavelength that supervised and organized everything! also to plong for the initiative and enthusiasm!
Modified by filip on 2018-01-29 14:05:31 Monstrata | 2018-01-29 15:36:46 |
Thanks for the tournament. Despite some delays and little organisational issues, it was fun to play. I agree with Jeronimo, that classes should be reset only in playoffs, not before that. But I disagree about monoformat of the tournament concerning types of duels. If both players agree to play fast duel, I don't see any problem for that. Blitz is life.
Also there are some strange issues with top players. If such an ordinary and humble guy like me, that have played this game just for some days, can easily beat most of the top players and win the torunament - it's surely a thing to think about.
Thanks for the tournament. Despite some delays and little organisational issues, it was fun to play.I agree with Jeronimo, that classes should be reset only in playoffs, not before that. But I disagree about monoformat of the tournament concerning types of duels. If both players agree to play fast duel, I don't see any problem for that. Blitz is life.
Also there are some strange issues with top players. If such an ordinary and humble guy like me, that have played this game just for some days, can easily beat most of the top players and win the torunament - it's surely a thing to think about. Monstrata, your last sentence reveals much about yourself. And contradicting oneself in one sentence is quite an accomplishment ;-) Lets see how you do in the long run - if you keep winning, you are either exceptionnally bright or an alternative account - but you are definitely not humble. Anyway, congratulations to winning your 'first' tournament. Modified by plong on 2018-01-29 15:55:06
also to plong for the initiative and enthusiasm!
Thanks filip. I am happy we managed to pull it of and do the tournament. The first 30min i was worried ;-) Next time the preparation will be better. And yes, let's keep this alive. I even suggest a tournament every 3 weeks rather than every 4 weeks, but lets the community decide what they want. So, everybody, how often should we organize a tournament, every 3 or every 4 weeks?
I just checked Monstratas profile stats. Lol, he definitly is an alternative account ;-) Are we sure plynx had the flue? ;-)
PandaWarrior | 2018-01-29 16:25:05 |
Maybe there are fresh blood in spectromancer. I think 4 weeks a tournament is great. I would like to participate next time. MangoFish | 2018-01-29 16:27:59 |
Me too,hope to see next tournament.
trust me this is not plynx. he would never say such things or write in such a manner... or lie to me about his illness plus: i played against Monstrata in round 1 and beat him/her while still dealing with organization issues. EGYPTO also beat him/her next round. my theory: it is CathyWeetheJohN (alt account: ChemUpdate) who showed up at some point, then tried to screw everything up (in the spreadsheet) and left the channel. i am also suspecting that Intensity is the same person or at least his/her friend: at some point Intensity asked not to play against CathyWeetheJohN (i pointed out that they were already assigned to different groups, so there was no reason to worry about that until the finals stage) and at various points conveyed information from CathyWeetheJohN to me because he/she "only speaks korean but no english". additionally, Monstrata never talked to anyone during the tournament as far as i am aware btw also check this topic out: http://spectromancer.com/forum.cgi#pageid=5045
also check out Intensity's round schedule and comparative results (bearing in mind my theory above)
Modified by filip on 2018-01-29 17:39:52 Kealah | 2018-01-29 16:55:04 |
Also there are some strange issues with top players. If such an ordinary and humble guy like me, that have played this game just for some days, can easily beat most of the top players and win the torunament - it's surely a thing to think about. Monstrata, i think no one doubts that you are using an alternate account. As well you were lucky that I was distracted, because of this you got a victory. In any case, I can hold a second meeting with you to destroy you. :b
P.S. I argee with filip. CathyWeetheJohN=ChampUpdate=brother of Intensity. But now i don't think that Monstrata=CathyWeeTheJohN, probably Monstrata=Krugopryad.
Modified by Kealah on 2018-01-29 18:25:42 Monstrata | 2018-01-29 17:17:49 |
I've never seen such an aggressive and rude community. So many unfounded accusations aimed at a new unexperienced player. Some can't admit their just and inevitable defeat, some say that I'm korean alt that tried to screw up the spreadsheet (or maybe it was a compliment to my multilanguage ability?), some compare me with a constant chrono user. It seems like some kind of xenophobia, where everything unfamiliar is percieved as something hostile. Sadness.
Kealah | 2018-01-29 18:19:03 |
I've never seen such an aggressive and rude community. So many unfounded accusations aimed at a new unexperienced player. Some can't admit their just and inevitable defeat, some say that I'm korean alt that tried to screw up the spreadsheet (or maybe it was a compliment to my multilanguage ability?), some compare me with a constant chrono user. It seems like some kind of xenophobia, where everything unfamiliar is percieved as something hostile. Sadness. If you've never seen a "such" aggressive community, you probably just never saw a single community. Jeronimo | 2018-01-29 19:15:45 |
Next month we will see this confrontation: Monstrata vs Plynx (semifinals best of 3).
Kealah | 2018-01-29 21:04:57 |
Jeronimo, the others played too poorly, and not Monstrate is so strong.
trust me this is not plynx. he would never say such things or write in such a manner... or lie to me about his illness
Filip, of course i know it was not plynx. i was just joking. Monstrata's comments would be so much beneath him, he would never say these kind of things. Lets just ignore this unlikable person and focus on the nice members of the community :-)
I think Monstrata is overestimated in this thread, obviously he is master of blitz games (he won all of them though even I was able to see some mistakes in his opponents play while spectating) and obviously he is not that brilliant in normal mode (lost 2 games out of 5).
Yes, it's possible that CathyWeetheJohN and Intensity are the same people, they share behavioral patterns. One of them tried to punish me via inviting to play after some message in chat and another blacklisted me immediately after I was finally able to beat him once in 30+ attempts. Tendou0 | 2018-01-30 07:45:58 |
I think Monstrata is overestimated in this thread, obviously he is master of blitz games (he won all of them though even I was able to see some mistakes in his opponents play while spectating) and obviously he is not that brilliant in normal mode (lost 2 games out of 5).
Yes, it's possible that CathyWeetheJohN and Intensity are the same people, they share behavioral patterns. One of them tried to punish me via inviting to play after some message in chat and another blacklisted me immediately after I was finally able to beat him once in 30+ attempts. Also without taking away anything, I would just add here that I could easily eliminate Monstrata in groups match, I just made a blunder in our games. Still regardless, you don't reach positive balance with all classes after 50 games as a beginner. My 5 cents.
plong_ | 2018-01-30 15:37:28 |
P.S. I argee with filip. CathyWeetheJohN=ChampUpdate=brother of Intensity.
Keleah, how do you know this? Are you sure? Or is this speculation?
GrimJ0ker | 2018-01-30 15:40:28 |
Really happy finally we organized a tourney. Sadly i coudn't participate this time, maybe if this gonna be a monthly event I'll join the next one. Well...about "Plynx doesn't lie", not really agree. Since I found out Plynx=Beehive ( same favourite and disliked classes, same punctuation on the forum), so when he said that he never tried the new classes of the last big patch, well... was a lie, But I believe that even without evident proof of this, people didn't believe him. Everybody lie, even Monstrata. Also about "rude things", remember that the weird moves he called "challenging moves" are a sort of disrespect for the opponent, (Slowpok could confirm).
I really hope we will gonna be more than 14 players on the February tourney, also hope you can improve the system as well. See you soon. Kealah | 2018-01-30 16:09:19 |
Keleah, how do you know this? Are you sure? Or is this speculation?
I learned this during a period of active cooperation with Intensity. He told me about it. Anticipating questions. I collaborated with him on translating my article into Korean. For this I am grateful to him, although he did everything a little differently.
Jeronimo | 2018-01-30 18:05:20 |
Well...about "Plynx doesn't lie", not really agree. Since I found out Plynx=Beehive ( same favourite and disliked classes, same punctuation on the forum), so when he said that he never tried the new classes of the last big patch, well... was a lie, But I believe that even without evident proof of this, people didn't believe him. Everybody lie, even Monstrata. Also about "rude things", remember that the weird moves he called "challenging moves" are a sort of disrespect for the opponent, (Slowpok could confirm). Mmh.. NO. Plynx is a man. Beehive is a woman. I could talk to both when in activity, and both have different personalities. Respect punctuation and classes like/dislike, might be a coincidence, but they don't "chat" equally. Simply check the OFF-TOPIC: "Happy Valentine's Day!". It's the most anti-Plynx opened thread ever. Last but not least, it was easier to me to beat Beehive those days than Plynx last year. Respect his behaviour in the game... I do remember his "challenging moves". But that wasn't being rude, I can explain-> During the tournament 2 days ago, I had some of that "Plynx's insight" feeling in a game where I was Dominator vs Cleric. Turn 1: opponent plays F3, then I play A1 in front of it. Turn 2: opponent plays Meditation, then I foresee the future of such duel. I could have played a creature with life that would resist the probable Divine Justice, but instead I played Damping Tower in a corner-> This was the start of a long term win by resource advantage... this play would be one of his "challenging moves" I think. Plynx was pretty good with all classes, but I do admit that I never liked how he climbed to the top by just abusing Chronomancer, and that his explanation of such choice was that Chronomancer was "interesting and fun to play", while I was maybe expecting him to say "it's one of most OP classes, I just want to win the most in the less time possible". Maybe Plynx was truly being honest, and well... doesn't matter now. Respects to the guy.
Modified by Jeronimo on 2018-01-30 18:06:10 GrimJ0ker | 2018-01-30 20:48:27 |
So Beehive was the best new player(almost 200games when he joined on Febraury/March) to win a tourney defeating:
Beehive - John (2:0) round2 Beehive - Jeronimo (2:0) round5 Beehive - SerzhAP (2:0) quarterfinals Beehive - bluedawn (2:0) semifinals Beehive - Kroma (2:0) final
Woman power! Then she totally disappeared...
No new player can play at these levels, beating top players so easily and managing to achieve such a high win rate with classes that require learning. I remember when I started to play the game and I had something like 20% winrate vs lvl.40 guys with really poor winrate in each class. Even Plynx had 20 W and 35 L with Cleric class when he started the game and he still has that wr cause he never played cleric anymore. As I said in my previous post, I think Beehive is Plynx and this doesn't concern the respect. I respect Plynx as a player and I appreciate his great intelligence.
plongs_ | 2018-01-30 22:17:18 |
... Simply check the OFF-TOPIC: "Happy Valentine's Day!". It's the most anti-Plynx opened thread ever.
Plynx was pretty good with all classes, but I do admit that I never liked how he climbed to the top by just abusing Chronomancer, and that his explanation of such choice was that Chronomancer was "interesting and fun to play", while I was maybe expecting him to say "it's one of most OP classes, I just want to win the most in the less time possible". Maybe Plynx was truly being honest, and well... doesn't matter now. Respects to the guy.
How can i find the thread Happy Valentine's Day? Although plynx used Chronomancer a lot and probably this way was the fastest to climb to the top, its not fair and not true to dismiss him as 'only to top because of Chronomancer' (which you didnt, but i just wanted to point it out for clarities sake, because the impression could arise)- Check his winrate with Dominator, for example. He would be we he is in the rankings even without using time class at all. And keep in mind all the tournaments he one where it was not allowed to use time only. He simply was the best Spectroplayer every by far, and i am not saying that as a fanboy, just stating a fact. Reagrding behhive=plynx : i never met beehive, so i cant say anything substantial, i can only say that their play style look VERY similar (i watched some replays on youtube from beehive a long time ago).
... I learned this during a period of active cooperation with Intensity. He told me about it. Anticipating questions. I collaborated with him on translating my article into Korean. For this I am grateful to him, although he did everything a little differently.
Thanks for the info. Does Intensitiy have any alts as well? There was a post from Intensity about strategy etc. and his english sounded exactly like SeaLetas...
Jeronimo | 2018-01-30 23:09:03 |
Beehive could be a good female player on her own, the fact of being a woman shouldn't be taken as prejudice [95% women suck at videogames]. There are more facts about Beehive not being Plynx, back in 2013 she used to tease me because of my nice comments to Valentyne respect her Spectro-Fiction. Beehive was very perceptive in that regard, and thus intelligent enough to perform well in any videogame. I remember also some private messages she sent to me like *cough* *cough*, only to distract/tease or tell me in her style that she had "already connected". @plong: Off-Topic Section is in the forum menu here, left-bottom corner, right above the 3 country flags. Then scroll down to the topic "Happy Valentine's Day!", opened by Beehive. There are many other posts from her... you can search in the bar right-top corner: Type Beehive to read posts from her. plong do you like my stats? Modified by Jeronimo on 2018-01-30 23:22:50 HeadphonesGirl | 2018-01-31 03:46:50 |
I wanted to be there but got stuck with work. But I am in favor of the idea of organizing more and I will definitely be there when I can!
Kealah | 2018-01-31 08:31:45 |
Thanks for the info. Does Intensitiy have any alts as well? There was a post from Intensity about strategy etc. and his english sounded exactly like SeaLetas...
Relying on the words of Intensity, he knows about SeaLete, but it's not him. SeaLeta has a brother, I think all the experienced players know about it. But no one will say that they had inappropriate behavior. In this there is simply no sense for them.
Plynx was pretty good with all classes, but I do admit that I never liked how he climbed to the top by just abusing Chronomancer, and that his explanation of such choice was that Chronomancer was "interesting and fun to play", while I was maybe expecting him to say "it's one of most OP classes, I just want to win the most in the less time possible". Maybe Plynx was truly being honest, and well... doesn't matter now. Respects to the guy.
I wish we had separate leagues for players who play all classes and the rest players, there are quite a few players who pick just the most powerful classes and ignore the rest. Personally I started blacklisting such players. Wavelength | 2018-01-31 18:09:37 |
The purpose of this tourney was to get some of the best Spectro players in the world back together at the same and revive that love of competition we had during the World Tourneys era. If the aftermath devolves into suspicion, accusation, anger and sour grapes, then that defeats the entire purpose of it.
Monstrata was the best player on that day. He dominated every match when it counted. Is he an alt? Of course he is. Is he trolling? Probably. But he still would have won all of those games had he been using his real account.
If you guys think there was cheating going on, we could make the requirements to join more strict in the future (e.g. 300 games played), or have an invitation-only tourney. I personally don't see the need, but it's an option.
Having talked a bunch with both Plynx and Beehive in the past, I am very confident that they are not the same person. Their attitudes and diction are so different that it would require sociopathic levels of deceit to pull off such a double identity. Also, the times I've seen Plynx online in other places follow his Spectro patterns, not Beehive's. (And Time was OP in the past, so it's hardly surprising that several of the best players mained it.)
I get it, I probably sound like a bleeding heart or a naive fool, but I was excited to see there were so many new posts about the tourney and it made me feel genuinely sad to see that most were accusations and suspicion.
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There was an interesting concern brought up earlier about the mixture of Normal and Fast Duels in this tournament that I want to address. Aside from the Play-Ins, which I'll get to in a second, all of the Fast Duel matches were done by mutual consent. If both players want to voluntarily enforce a time limit on themselves to speed things up (in a tourney that, by necessity, takes a long time), I don't think anyone has any right to complain about that!
I do see how being forced to play a Fast Duel for the Play-In stage feels unfair, but remember that it's used as a tiebreaker (and therefore you can only be forced to play it if you didn't earn enough wins to make the Playoffs outright). In past tournaments, we had Strength of Schedule (Opponent Win %) as a tiebreaker, but that's impossible in a Round Robin tournament because anyone who is tied with you will have the exact same SoS. Sweeps was the second tiebreaker in the past, but this was a Best-of-1 format in the Group Stage so Sweeps aren't a thing. Level is a really bad first tiebreaker. Therefore, the only fair way I could see to tiebreak was extra matches, and given that multiple-way ties could result in lots of extra matches that greatly bloat the tourney length, I figured that Fast Duels were a good compromise.
With all of that justification being said, I agree that being forced to play for your life in a Fast Duel isn't ideal, either. Can anyone think of something that might be a better tiebreaker, or for that matter a better overall format for the tourneys that wouldn't require tiebreakers (but would still allow for Playoffs which are a lot of fun)? Modified by Wavelength on 2018-01-31 18:18:45 GrimJ0ker | 2018-01-31 18:42:08 |
Modified by GrimJ0ker on 2018-02-01 00:00:45 GrimJ0ker | 2018-01-31 19:44:41 |
Reagrding behhive=plynx : i never met beehive, so i cant say anything substantial, i can only say that their play style look VERY similar (i watched some replays on youtube from beehive a long time ago).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDPKqXaMzk ; Yeah, for example vs Bluedawn at 1.32.00, the chrono game has the same style or in the rpl I posted, just check the Phoenix move...also Beehive used to keep the control class as the very last class to use or vs very strong players, she used vs ddd456 in the replay at round5 and vs Kroma at round3 of the other tourney.
Well...you are totally free to think that. You are free to think that Beehive certainly was a new female player who won the tourney defeating all the best players in activity disappearing soon after and also you are free to think with the same certainty that Monstrata is not a new player who won the last one vs some player in inactivity. You are free to think that Plynx after 5 years of inactivity and zero games played during the weeks preceding the tournament on 4 January 2015 magically joined the channel winning a BLITZ tournament without knowing the new cards( and not only Vamp,Cult,Spririt and Golem but also Sorc,Goblins,Forest and Chrono). I remember when he joined the channel asking for the new cards set page, during our match he had the time to write in chat a dozen times in a blitz game, 15 secs x move without reading new cards, 2-0 to me, 2-0 to sealeta. Just imagine for one second to join Spectro in 2023 with 8 new classes, participating a blitz torunament and winning it easly. Then...open the eyes, you are the greatest genius of the humanity and I am Santa Claus.
You are free to think what you want but also me. And this is my last post about this sub-topic.
Modified by GrimJ0ker on 2018-01-31 19:45:34 HeadphonesGirl | 2018-01-31 19:47:17 |
If Plynx really wanted to play an alt and disguise that it was him, I don't think it would be that difficult for him to change his writing style pretty convincingly. He is a smart guy. I have an alt I've done this with in the past and I'm pretty sure no one ever guessed it was me. The one person I ever told was completely shocked and said he never would have guessed. (I never used this account in a tournament btw.)
Not saying I do think Plynx is Beehive, I really don't know and I don't think it matters much, but it's possible. Doubtful he is monstrata though. I agree that alt seems more like Krugopryad's style. Jeronimo | 2018-01-31 21:27:51 |
GrimJ0ker sounds so irritated only because many don't agree with his [Beehive = Plynx] hypothesis. I prefer to believe in StephanieF, who said that Plynx was an ANGEL on Earth, walking among mortals. This topic went full accusative-suspicious after Monstrata made public his dissapointment regarding top players he beat 2-0 in the tournament. @Wavelenght: As tiebreaker we can use OMW points (opponent match-win). The highest is the sum of the defeated players points, the highest your position to win the tie. Using OWM in Group A (3 players tied with 4 wins)Jeronimo's opponents final scores: 2+0+4+2 Belkin1986's opponents final scores: 4+2+5+0 Is_F007's opponents final scores: 0+2+2+4 Belkin1986 should have passed our group stage without playing any additional match. It was the only one who could beat Kealah, the final leader of our Group A. Using OWM in Group B (2 players tied with 3 wins)Monstrata's opponents final scores: 3+1+2 Tendou's opponents final scores: 2+2+1 Monstrata should have passed the group stage without playing any additional match. His tiny +1 point advantage comes from having beaten Tendou during their encounter. With this method there might no need to play extra matches, if special case happens, then a normal duel (no class reset) is what I recommend, since noone wants to be eliminated due misscalculation or blunder. Modified by Jeronimo on 2018-01-31 21:33:53 HeadphonesGirl | 2018-01-31 22:24:51 |
I prefer to believe in StephanieF, who said that Plynx was an ANGEL on Earth, walking among mortals.
Wavelength | 2018-02-01 03:13:49 |
@Wavelenght: As tiebreaker we can use OMW points (opponent match-win). The highest is the sum of the defeated players points, the highest your position to win the tie. Thanks for the idea, Big J! We can use this if people like it (some professional leagues do use it as a very low tiebreaker, e.g. the NFL), but to me it feels very arbitrary, almost like a coin flip. Can we say that a player who beats better opponents, but loses to worse opponents, is more deserving of a spot than a player who consistently beats lower opponents but loses to better ones? Personally, I'd rather give both players the opportunity to earn their way in.
What does everyone think about this?
We might somewhat objectively sort classes (for example, using statistics from last year), something like: Time - 1 point Death - 2 points etc. and then calculate total points for classes used by every player during group stage. Player with higher total points wins in case of tiebreak.
As a bonus it might increase strategy via encouraging to use "weaker" classes intentionally, for example if I am equally comfortable with some classes, I would use one with highest points among them. Modified by Sandu on 2018-02-01 08:53:52 Kealah | 2018-02-01 09:06:02 |
I agree with Jeronimo. These players didn't must to play extra games. Although anyone who watched my fights, could see that I loss because i was stupid/inattention. Because just i didn't press the winning move.
GrimJ0ker | 2018-02-01 12:29:38 |
Agree with Jeronimo, OMW is the best tiebreaker.
Jeronimo | 2018-02-01 16:48:45 |
Another improvement to format: Adding quarterfinals
We probably didn't have these because of thinking there wouldn't be many participants. But then many curious players from Main channel joined Battlegrounds, others also appeared too late and couldn't be incorporated in any group... so yeah.. we can easily reach 16 participants next tournament. Groups work as a filter to get the best 4 players of each pool, then we use the OMW for the pairings at quarterfinals (1st of group A vs 4th of group B and so on). Off Topic: Is there a chance to revive Spectromancer, or at least bump its playerbase a bit, by attracting those who only play Astral Heroes and haven't tried Spectromancer yet? I read somewhere not long ago about AH being "dead", and before it's too late, would be great to "import" some potential players right into this game. I have no reputation there as to open a topic and invite core AH players to the revival of Spectromancer.
Modified by Wavelength on 2018-02-02 10:14:42
GrimJ0ker | 2018-02-02 00:38:15 |
Nice initiative Jeronimo, but I guess the AH players prefer another kind of card game, something to create a deck, buying cards etc...but maybe we can try, unfortunally i have no reputation as well. I remember when spectro had something like +100 players online, now it seems that the regular number is 20. The game is really nice, low luck component. It deserves to not die like that.
Btw I also agree about adding quartefinals for 16+ players Modified by Wavelength on 2018-02-02 10:14:06 HeadphonesGirl | 2018-02-02 06:05:02 |
Astral Heroes is not dead dead, but it's dead in the sense that the devs are no longer supporting it with regular updates. A few people do still play it.
I think Grim is probably right. There is not much overlap in the playerbase of Spectro and AH. Most of the Spectro players who tried it early on didn't stick with it. I did mention Spectromancer in my new player guide over there, but could make a topic about it as well to see if anyone's interested.
EDIT: checked out of curiosity, and there are definitely still a lot more people playing AH than Spectro. It's well under 100 players online at the moment but probably close to 60. Modified by Wavelength on 2018-02-02 10:14:16 Cooler | 2018-02-02 18:33:19 |
Is there a chance to revive Spectromancer, or at least bump its playerbase a bit, by attracting those who only play Astral Heroes and haven't tried Spectromancer yet?
For sure, we should do this. Right now I'm committed to my current full-time job, but I'm going to leave it since April (and probably have some vacations before), and spend my time on AH development and other things, including cross-promo. Jeronimo | 2018-02-02 22:47:13 |
In October it will be Spectromancer's decade birthday, since it was first released in October 2008.
HeadphonesGirl | 2018-02-03 01:35:56 |
... For sure, we should do this. Right now I'm committed to my current full-time job, but I'm going to leave it since April (and probably have some vacations before), and spend my time on AH development and other things, including cross-promo.
Does this mean the update for AH is still coming out? Wavelength | 2018-02-03 05:12:50 |
For sure, we should do this. Right now I'm committed to my current full-time job, but I'm going to leave it since April (and probably have some vacations before), and spend my time on AH development and other things, including cross-promo.
Congratulations on taking that leap to free up your time and chase your dreams, Cooler!! =D
I've been working (some paid freelance work, more often on my own) on game design stuff for a few years now, so I think it would be really cool to talk sometime and exchange a few of our thoughts and experiences about indie development! Cooler | 2018-02-03 12:17:45 |
Does this mean the update for AH is still coming out?
Yes, 100% The same is about Android version. so I think it would be really cool to talk sometime and exchange a few of our thoughts and experiences about indie development!
I'd be glad to :) HeadphonesGirl | 2018-02-03 17:10:29 |
... Yes, 100% The same is about Android version.
Cool! Glad to hear it.
If you don't mind, I'll relay that on the AH forums - I think it would be helpful for the English-speaking section of the forums to hear it.
Modified by HeadphonesGirl on 2018-02-03 17:11:07 Dhalsim2hao | 2018-02-04 05:05:31 |
What? Tournament? When? Finished? Oh!,no!
Dhalsim2hao | 2018-02-04 05:07:17 |
By the way, I am not the player Dhalsimzhao. I am 2hao.
Waitfornerff | 2018-02-17 11:45:51 |
When nerf in Spectromancer?
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