Eurydice | 2014-11-23 02:40:20 |
StephanieF, a forum moderator, has abused his position and power as moderator to delete posts in topics of context, posts that do not violate any rules of forum and deal with the topic of the thread. StephanieF deletes posts that she simply does not like or does not agree with. StephanieF has abused moderator powers in the past and continues to do so now. This must come to a stop! StephanieF is treating this game forum as a personal playground for amusement and promoting her own ideals and arguments without shame. StephanieF is abusing this forum and this game.I move to impeach StephanieF from forum moderator and strip her of her powers immediately.Modified by Wavelength on 2014-11-23 03:00:22 Wavelength | 2014-11-23 03:04:03 |
I have edited your post because of the following (and yes, I do appreciate the irony of editing a post in this topic):
* I have evidence that StephanieF is not the same person as the people you had mentioned, so let's not drag them into this.
* StephanieF is female.
With that said, I'm glad you made this topic - not because I would want to see StephanieF impeached, but because we really do need to air out the recent abuses of mod powers.
StephanieF | 2014-11-23 03:04:52 |
Very insulting!
You are a pathetic hater as you prove it now totally...
1. You call me "his".
2. You complain about doing my job well, namely deleting off-topic and insulting posts. So you are pro-chaos, so contraproductive!
3. You lie like hell! I never deleted posts for the reason that I don't like them! I have also never abused moderator-powers! And I never use the Forum as a personal playground, not even a bit!
4. "Without shame" is the correct attitude for you...you should be banned totally, cause tremendous hater and contraproductive on same level but with a high IQ. Modified by StephanieF on 2014-11-23 03:17:02 StephanieF | 2014-11-23 03:08:55 |
Wait Wave...
What has he said?
Which persons? Modified by StephanieF on 2014-11-23 03:10:23 Wavelength | 2014-11-23 03:20:29 |
Wait Wave... What has he said? Which persons?
He thought that you were sock-puppeting LaoTse, JoeChen, Goblinolog, and a few others, which is obviously a false accusation. But as you've seen in the last few days there are some people unhappy with the way you've deleted posts instead of steering the threads toward more productive discussion through gentler means (asking nicely, moving extremely off-topic posts to a new thread, or deleting the offending sentences rather than the entire post, with a note explaining why). It's important that they can air their complaints and that we listen to them. That keeps the community healthy, which is our job as mods. So please don't delete anything in here.
Modified by Wavelength on 2014-11-23 03:23:16 Eurydice | 2014-11-23 03:23:04 |
He thought that you were sock-puppeting LaoTse, JoeChen, Goblinolog, and a few others, which is obviously a false accusation.
Do not be so sure... StephanieF | 2014-11-23 03:26:40 |
I am JoeChen!
StephanieF | 2014-11-23 03:31:35 |
Insulting is just deleted and not moved anywhere!
And the rest was a cheap trick always and all started by Eurydice to drag me in a position where he wanted kind of psychically rape me...well, he does not stop as you see now...but now you are also here Wave...
Eurydice | 2014-11-23 03:38:49 |
Insulting is just deleted and not moved anywhere! And the rest was a cheap trick always and all started by Eurydice to drag me in a position where he wanted kind of psychically rape me...well, he does not stop as you see now...but now you are also here Wave...
You are not dictator of this forum and cannot delete post with cover-up excuse of it being "insulting" based on your own personally feeling of the words and the person. It is time you come clean with all things and own your mistakes. Stop hiding in shadow constructs and masks. StephanieF | 2014-11-23 03:48:31 |
I know your problem James! Really, I know it!
I like this Avatar most, but many of your Avatars are nice.
You are very, very jealous on girls, jealous like hell!!! I even feel with you, really, but to destroy us (the old common way of religions) is not the solution, not at all! The pictures will stay in your mind and even more when I am not here anymore...you cannot run away from your deepest wish, which is to be a girl! It will be with you your whole life and just grow always...fight! But fight not against it, fight for it!
There are ways today...you can start for example with hormone-pills...if you have some money you can get a very good surgery today... But lol...to be a girl is much more than just to have the body lol...it begins in the mind! You have to hunger maybe because too fat...many things to learn...it is very nice, sure a paradise compared to be a guy, but it's also a hard job...the things that the guys don't see, they see always just the pretty result lol. but not all the effort that was behind it...
I will not answer anymore to your offenses cause I have pity with you, and I hope you will find the power finally (maybe a bit later...) to fight against your Demon and get the chance to become lucky. I really wish you this! Modified by StephanieF on 2014-11-23 03:51:53 Eurydice | 2014-11-23 03:59:11 |
I know your problem James! Really, I know it! I like this Avatar most, but many of your Avatars are nice. You are very, very jealous on girls, jealous like hell!!! I even feel with you, really, but to destroy us (the old common way of religions) is not the solution, not at all! The pictures will stay in your mind and even more when I am not here anymore...you cannot run away from your deepest wish, which is to be a girl! It will be with you your whole life and just grow always...fight! But fight not against it, fight for it! There are ways today...you can start for example with hormone-pills...if you have some money you can get a very good surgery today... But lol...to be a girl is much more than just to have the body lol...it begins in the mind! You have to hunger maybe because too fat...many things to learn...it is very nice, sure a paradise compared to be a guy, but it's also a hard job...the things that the guys don't see, they see always just the pretty result lol. but not all the effort that was behind it... I will not answer anymore to your offenses cause I have pity with you, and I hope you will find the power finally (maybe a bit later...) to find against your Demon and get the chance to become lucky. I really wish you this!
You know nothing about me, and I am insulted that you would accuse any of this ridiculousness on me. It is very off-topic by the way. Please try to keep out of your own mind these things and keep to the topic. Wavelength | 2014-11-23 04:02:36 |
I know you are more mature than this, Stephanie.
Claudob | 2014-11-23 04:08:34 |
I wonder why you are arguing about the powers of the moderators. This is not necessary to argue. You just need to see the forum rules. Forum rules clearly states what responsibilities the moderators. According to this reasoning does not need any. Refer to the rules of the forum. Then it becomes clear what is right and what is not. I have not read the forum rules. Please can someone give a link to the rules? P. S. Be kind to each other. This is important. The rest is just details.
Eurydice | 2014-11-23 04:19:10 |
I wonder why you are arguing about the powers of the moderators. This is not necessary to argue. You just need to see the forum rules. Forum rules clearly states what responsibilities the moderators. According to this reasoning does not need any. Refer to the rules of the forum. Then it becomes clear what is right and what is not.
I created this topic because the moderator, StephanieF, is not following the rules and is abusing the role of moderator to own advantage, and abusing this forum in doing this. Wavelength | 2014-11-23 04:19:10 |
Claudob | 2014-11-23 04:33:57 |
... Forum rules can be found on the forum's front page: http://spectromancer.com/forum.cgi
Looked.... I created this topic because the moderator, StephanieF, is not following the rules and is abusing the role of moderator to own advantage, and abusing this forum in doing this.
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лÑдей. ÐÑдÑÑе внимаÑелÑÐ½Ñ Ð¸ добÑожелаÑелÑÐ½Ñ Ðº лÑдÑм, пиÑиÑе ÑолÑко Ñо, ÑÑо бÑÐ´ÐµÑ Ð¿Ð¾Ð»ÐµÐ·Ð½Ð¾, инÑеÑеÑно и пÑиÑÑно ÑиÑаÑÑ. Translation. Incorrect behavior is forbidden! You can not hold a flame, insult or humiliate others. Be attentive and friendly to people, write only what is useful, interesting and enjoyable read. Ðа некоÑÑекÑное поведение в игÑе и на ÑоÑÑме админиÑÑÑаÑоÑÑ Ð¸Ð¼ÐµÑÑ Ð¿Ñаво пÑимениÑÑ Ð¼ÐµÑÑ Ð²Ð¾Ð·Ð´ÐµÐ¹ÑÑÐ²Ð¸Ñ Ð¿Ð¾ ÑÐ²Ð¾ÐµÐ¼Ñ ÑÑмоÑÑÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð²Ð¿Ð»Ð¾ÑÑ Ð´Ð¾ полного ÑÐ´Ð°Ð»ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ Ð°ÐºÐºÐ°ÑнÑа. Translation. For misconduct in the game and forum administrators have the right to impose sanctions at its discretion until the complete removal of the account. The powers are very large. If you believe that a moderator violates the rules, then please specify what point. P. S. And one more thing. You do not pay attention to this:
Be kind to each other. This is important. The rest is just details.
Eurydice | 2014-11-23 04:54:41 |
The powers are very large. If you believe that a moderator violates the rules, then please specify what point.
I have already stated the claims against... Please read first post. Be kind to each other. This is important. The rest is just details.
I will not use sugarcoating. I am tired of sitting idly by while moderator StephanieF abuses powers. StephanieF has not been kind in this regard. This blatant abuse must not continue and must be punished! Wavelength | 2014-11-23 05:08:54 |
Let's try to focus. Eurydice, can you please state which posts were inappropriate to delete, and why it was inappropriate?
Claudob | 2014-11-23 05:15:36 |
...I have already stated the claims against... Please read first post.
The rules say that for misconduct moderators have the right to apply sanctions in its sole discretion. I think that not a moderator fouls. The reason is that you do not agree with the rules. You may require the administrator to change the rules. Then the moderator will act in accordance with the new rules. Until then, the moderator will have the right to act on your own. Am getting the result. Moderator does not violate the rules. You do not like the existing rules.
...I will not use sugarcoating. I am tired of sitting idly by while moderator StephanieF abuses powers. StephanieF has not been kind in this regard. This blatant abuse must not continue and must be punished! I meant more. The fact that outside the rules. Be more friendly to each other. Then refer to the rules will not have to. Eurydice | 2014-11-23 05:20:17 |
Let's try to focus. Eurydice, can you please state which posts were inappropriate to delete, and why it was inappropriate? Many posts have been outright deleted, in present topics and old. And countless many more have been "edited" by StephanieF to reflect other than what was being said. Many of which were about StephanieF in some way. I feel it has been wrongly done by the personally feelings of StephanieF, for own purpose. Krugopryad | 2014-11-23 07:49:16 |
The problem is that there are no rules for moderators written anywhere, but still, some people like Wave still do not have any conflicts with the community and others are on god_mode deleting and editing posts and lying about it. Maybe it's some kind of the next level trolling or just a simple inadequacy I don't know, but it's enough and should be stopped. So, I completely support Eurydice's first post.
mamoulian | 2014-11-23 08:09:19 |
I think too that Stephanie uses that "insulting" and "off-topic" reason too easily based on her feelings.This whole case beginned with an insulting assumption and comments (from Lao with fake reference to Grim) wich she takes sides with it. Then there were some comments that some of us didn't find off-topic or insulting, yet she took it extremely personally and deleted it. Even now she responding in a very immature way (and very insulting and off-topic) and that is just not the behavior which is OK for a mod even she feels she's been provoked and "dragged" into this (I think she asked for it...). I'm not on the forum too long, I don't know this is the first time or not, and don't want to judge that is she a worthy moderator or not, I just share my impression. It seems to me that she's not the type of person who is good to be a moderator, she takes thing too personally and goes into immature battles. But the most vitals part here is that the community which she should serve, starting to go against her and that is just not healthy. Like Krugo said, Wave doesn't have these kind of conflicts. She even said she would be happy if Cooler took away her leverage, seems to me a win-win. (Don't know why she's doing it then...) Sinist | 2014-11-23 09:22:58 |
I agree that it would probably better for everybody if Stephanie has her
moderator rights gone. He/she had no rights to delete Krugo`s, mine or
other posts just for sake of lulz, covering it with "offtopic" tag, not
to mention previous editing of one user to make him look bad... We have enough good and reasonable moderators (Wave alex) to keep forum going anyway Modified by Sinist on 2014-11-23 09:51:16 FORESTRY | 2014-11-23 09:49:15 |
I personally find all of this hilarious you guys take everything so seriously
Wavelength | 2014-11-23 10:04:38 |
I'm personally in the middle ground here. Go figure. There's a difference between a mod overstepping their bounds by deleting anything they personally find offensive, versus a mod intentionally and maliciously deleting everything that someone posts in order to win an argument or enforce a vendetta. Several of you seem to think that Stephanie did this maliciously. But I honestly think she took things the wrong way and then deleted things that she shouldn't have, unintentionally starting this firestorm. Can you guys admit the possibility that might be what happened here, or do you have strong evidence to the contrary? And is it was a mistake in her duty, wouldn't it be more productive to come up, together, with a better standard for when restraint needs to be shown, instead of calling for her head?
Modified by Wavelength on 2014-11-23 10:05:52 Sinist | 2014-11-23 10:11:18 |
Unfortunately only Cooler can prove her maliciousness, otherwise it would be just words vs words. Because she deleted all "unneccessary" posts, yep The thing is, whether forum needs moderator who "makes mistakes" on regular basis. It is not like without Stepganie there is no one left to keep order
Pr0di6y | 2014-11-23 10:26:42 |
IMO, both eurydice and stephanie are wrong. Eurydice said that Stephanie and LaoTse are same person and other stuffs. That's wrong from Eurydice. Stephanie deleted the posts because of that right ? She took it personally but for me, i would not delete the posts but instead reply back ( not like above though) or let other mod and players defend her against eurydice. But i understand what Eurydice feels also. Stephanie was going to delete my topic in problems/bugs section.
I was like OMG ... she defended laoTse ( leveling down piticu's alt accounts ) and now wants to delete the whole topic ?!
Modified by Pr0di6y on 2014-11-23 14:22:52 Claudob | 2014-11-23 11:21:15 |
Moderator is not doing his job as he wants, but as it requires the administration. If the moderator does it accurately without violations, the claims must be not to him but to the administration. If you do not like certain limitations, ask the administration to change the rules. If the administration deems your claim is valid, then the moderator will receive new instructions and will work differently. But until a moderator has received new orders, then it should work on the existing rules. If a moderator is clearly meets the requirements of the administration means he is a good moderator and no reason to dismiss.
Sinist | 2014-11-23 11:25:30 |
Formalism , eh? I am pretty sure you would have changed your mind very quickly if she deleted/edited your post for basically no reason Other moderators never allow themselves to do such things Modified by Sinist on 2014-11-23 11:26:35 Claudob | 2014-11-23 11:39:27 |
If I did not like the work of a moderator with my post, I would appeal to the administration to clarify this matter with the rules. Moderator does what it is supposed to, and not what he wants.
KingInTheNorth | 2014-11-23 12:54:32 |
I dont want to write anything in this forum, but i see it is neccessary. First of all i agree with Eurydice that stephanieF = LaoTse. Cant understand how other people disprove that with such confidence. You know these man/woman in real?. I think, now. That`s why for me it is obvious that it is one person. I am not linguist, but i see that their manner of speech is identical. His/her speech is full of praising yourself, "clever" phrases, "lol", "dots". And look at stats top 4 of arena, they are suspiciously similar (most games played by demonologist and illusionist). About his/her moderator rights, i think they should be removed. With his/her actions he/she only incites hatred such a lot that i had to enter into this dispute("i am not forum warrior" and it is very difficult to me cause of my bad english). Also she accused me without proves such as LaoTse did last year and in the end did not even apologized for that. HeadphonesGirl | 2014-11-23 14:48:08 |
StephanieF should not be a moderator anymore. In that thread she removed comments that did not warrant it, and then she removed all comments objecting. It is not acceptable to simply squash any discussion when people think that you're misusing moderator status.
In addition to this thread, I would encourage everyone to email Spectro support about this to ask that it be investigated as well.
I get to some extent that she was arguing posts complaining about the deletions were "off topic," but if a moderator abuses powers in a thread in general there is no other good place to post, as the off topic section isn't visited as much and it is a problem that needs to have attention drawn to it immediately.
I have no opinion on whether StephanieF is sock puppeting other accounts but I trust Wavelength's judgment on that. I think that is irrelevant though, even if it is true I don't care if people create multiple accounts even on the forums, I just want us all to feel confident that we can post any opinion without it being censored as long as it doesn't involve any personal attacks.
And just to be clear the initial posts she deleted were NOT personal attacks. If I did not like the work of a moderator with my post, I would appeal to the administration to clarify this matter with the rules. Moderator does what it is supposed to, and not what he wants. The
only difficulty being it is not so easy to do, because if Cooler isn't
around, we can't just write him a PM on this forum. So you have to try
to make an issue of it in the thread it is happening, or it is easy for
him to miss it. And if the moderator then completely deletes even the
discussion of the abuse in the first place, what are you supposed to do?
That's an absolutely unacceptable way to respond to being questioned.
Several of you
seem to think that Stephanie did this maliciously. But I honestly think
she took things the wrong way and then deleted things that she
shouldn't have, unintentionally starting this firestorm. Can you guys
admit the possibility that might be what happened here, or do you have
strong evidence to the contrary?
I don't think
there was anything "malicious" about it. That doesn't make it any more
acceptable, and it does mean that she is not fit to do the job.
I personally find all of this hilarious you guys take everything so seriously You probably didn't see all of the posts she deleted. It was really over the line.
It's
not like anybody is frothing at the mouth shaking fists at their
computer screen here. But we like this place and it has never had a
problem like this until recently. If it isn't addressed it will make the
forum less pleasant to use and that would be a real shame because this
game mostly has a very good community.
Modified by Wavelength on 2014-11-23 18:04:31
I am JoeChen! You can not be JoeChen, because JoeChen is Chinese.
Cooler | 2014-11-23 17:52:07 |
StephanieF should not be a moderator anymore. In that thread she removed comments that did not warrant it, and then she removed all comments objecting. It is not acceptable to simply squash any discussion when people think that you're misusing moderator status. I agree, all this aggression isn't good. Stephanie, I believe that you're trying to make the world (forum) better, but this looks like a wrong way.
Sinist | 2014-11-23 18:10:18 |
Cooler, what are you going to do?
Wavelength | 2014-11-23 18:45:21 |
Does anyone have a problem with any of these ideas?
1) Personal attacks are not acceptable. If part of a post is a clear personal attack, or name-calling, a moderator should remove only that part of the post, with an explanation why. If an entire post is a personal attack, the post should be deleted on the spot.
1a) If someone makes an honest and serious objection to their content being deleted, even if the original deletion was justified, the objection needs to be addressed maturely, not by immediately deleting it.
1b) If a moderator is involved in an argument or are the target of a personal attack themselves, they should wait for other mods to take action on their behalf wherever possible, to avoid accusations of abusing their power.
1c) Exceptions to all of the above can be made against accounts that are obviously made to attack or troll (such as "ImTheBest" (unregistered)). But "Reading between the lines" is not a good enough reason to immediately delete something you are involved in.
2) Threads made about false information (for example "Astral Masters 3 announced for 2014") or false accusations (for example, "KingInTheNorth is boosting") should be deleted if it can pose harm, or locked otherwise.
3) When a discussion strays from the original topic, the moderator may either move the "tangential" discussion into a new thread or leave it alone. The tangential discussion should not be deleted outright.
3a) As an exception to the above, if the moderator deems that leaving such discussion on the boards will harm the community or the game, etc., they may delete the tangential discussion. However, they should only do so after letting the entire discussion play out, and even then, should give at least one day's advanced warning before deleting posts for this reason, so that people can request the discussion remain.
4) As a rule of thumb the community is expected to respects mods and give their judgement (in cleaning up threads) the benefit of the doubt. Where you have a problem with a moderator's actions, you can bring it up to them once during regular discussion; if that doesn't solve things, make a separate topic about it in the Off-Topic section to avoid being disruptive.
Anything else that I didn't think of?
Wavelength | 2014-11-23 18:59:55 |
One other thing I just want to remind everyone about. Most of our jobs as mods isn't to take action against people. It is to do helpful things like fix broken formatting tags, remove "spambot" advertising, split a disorganized thread into two (or more) organized ones, remove duplicated/mistake posts, "sticky" (pin to the top) important information, encourage everyone to play nice, and generally be role models and leaders for the rest of the community. Stephanie has been doing all of these good things for you guys, even as she overstepped her bounds by deleting things she personally didn't like in the "power-leveling" topic. So it troubles me to see some (not all) of you throwing so much venom at her - you just comes across as ingrates.
Modified by Wavelength on 2014-11-23 19:06:21 HeadphonesGirl | 2014-11-23 19:13:57 |
Most of our jobs as mods isn't to take action against people. It is to do helpful things like fix broken formatting tags, remove "spambot" advertising, split a disorganized thread into two (or more) organized ones, remove duplicated/mistake posts, "sticky" (pin to the top) important information, encourage everyone to play nice, and generally be role models and leaders for the rest of the community.
What about making unsubstantiated accusations of cheating against good players, and putting words in other people's mouths that they didn't say to back it up? Does that fall under this category?
I appreciate you being evenhanded about it, and I don't want to come across as having any "venom" so I apologize if I did. I am not trying to say I think Steph is a bad person or anything ridiculous like that. I'm happy to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume her intentions were good. But when someone takes on the responsibility of having power to control how everyone on the forum communicates, they are automatically going to be held to a higher standard for their behavior, and I think that is warranted.
Since Cooler has acknowledged it and it sounds like he is going to take some action, I'm happy, and as far as I'm concerned it's done.
Modified by HeadphonesGirl on 2014-11-23 19:15:23 Claudob | 2014-11-23 19:26:52 |
The only difficulty being it is not so easy to do, because if Cooler isn't around, we can't just write him a PM on this forum. So you have to try to make an issue of it in the thread it is happening, or it is easy for him to miss it. And if the moderator then completely deletes even the discussion of the abuse in the first place, what are you supposed to do? That's an absolutely unacceptable way to respond to being questioned.
But I see that this is not the case. If the post is written correctly, it is not deleted. In any case, the Cooler knows everything. His posts is confirmed. In a pinch you can go straight to the administration. [email protected] [email protected]
Sinist | 2014-11-23 19:33:53 |
Stephanie has been doing all of these good things for you guys, even as she overstepped her bounds by deleting things she personally didn't like in the "power-leveling" topic. So it troubles me to see some (not all) of you throwing so much venom at her - you just comes across as ingrates.
Thats right, let us just let her keep doing the same thing. It is not like she ever reacts on criticism with anything besides "lol" or deleting posts again and again...
Wavelength | 2014-11-23 21:00:05 |
What about making unsubstantiated accusations of cheating against good players, and putting words in other people's mouths that they didn't say to back it up? Does that fall under this category?
Obviously not. ...when someone takes on the responsibility of having power to control how everyone on the forum communicates, they are automatically going to be held to a higher standard for their behavior, and I think that is warranted.
Totally agree. I am, for the record, against revoking her moderator status. I would like to see her receive one more chance under clearer standards. But I can see the argument for it, since this is the second time. accidental double post, please delete Oh, NOW you want a mod, HPG! NOW you come crawling back! XD Thats right, let us just let her keep doing the same thing. It is not like she ever reacts on criticism with anything besides "lol" or deleting posts again and again...
All I'm saying is show some respect for the good things she's done for the forum, and if you don't like something that was done, discuss that, rather than spewing anger or hatred. But I see that this is not the case. If the post is written correctly, it is not deleted. In any case, the Cooler knows everything. His posts is confirmed. In a pinch you can go straight to the administration. [email protected] [email protected]
Yes,
you can contact support if you need help for something like this... but
you shouldn't have to. I think this is why people are angry about what
happened. Modified by Wavelength on 2014-11-23 22:03:33 Eurydice | 2014-11-23 22:12:36 |
I would like to see her receive one more chance under clearer standards. But I can see the argument for it, since this is the second time.
I do not doubt the good things that StephanieF has done in the forum over time, cleaning and correcting errors, but the bad deeds outweighs the good in my opinion. For a long time StephanieF has out stepped the boundaries by editing unnecessarily too often and for posts that do not require editing, seeming for own amusement as if it were some funny joke, not taking the position serious, adding in personally text and instigating arguments. Then came the big incident with the Hearthstone player Cristofer, and all of that mess. Now this. For me the trust is completely broken. I do not believe that StephanieF deserves another chance. It is too likely that the abuse will come again and continue. Wavelength | 2014-11-23 22:56:35 |
It does seems that most people who have voiced their opinion in this topic want her moderator powers revoked, with myself and (I assume) Claudob as the only dissenters.
HeadphonesGirl | 2014-11-23 23:35:21 |
Oh, NOW you want a mod, HPG! NOW you come crawling back! XD
Claudob | 2014-11-24 05:38:28 |
It is too likely that the abuse will come again and continue. Why do you have such thoughts? Stephanie worked in accordance with the existing rules and guidelines administrators. Why do you think that if you change the rules or new instructions administrators that Stephanie did not obey? When administrators gave her new instructions? She still has not received new instructions. This means that there is no reason to believe that the new instructions is not going to carry them out. According to this it would be wrong to deprive her powers moderator.
Claudob | 2014-11-24 05:51:44 |
Oh, NOW you want a mod, HPG! NOW you come crawling back! XD
Players can edit their own posts, but can not delete them. Why not allow players to remove their own posts?
Cooler | 2014-11-24 08:59:25 |
Players can edit their own posts, but can not delete them. Why not allow players to remove their own posts?
This may make it looks like there was no post at all, which is confusing.
Claudob | 2014-11-24 10:06:37 |
...This may make it looks like there was no post at all, which is confusing.
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Sinist | 2014-11-24 10:11:02 |
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Claudob | 2014-11-24 10:17:09 |
...This may make it looks like there was no post at all, which is confusing.
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Such a community is of course worth a shit, which can be manipulated by a little vile jerk so easily!
Forum is dead for me forever!!!
The Community is dead for me forever!!!
Sinist | 2014-11-24 12:07:39 |
Now, if you call Krugopryad and others "little jerks"... -_- Did I mention before than moderator needs to have adequate reaction on forum posts? Modified by Sinist on 2014-11-24 12:16:29 Krugopryad | 2014-11-24 12:35:57 |
That's exactly what I meant by "immatureness" and "inadequacy". Nothing to add here.
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Wavelength | 2014-11-24 16:16:30 |
If the post is removed by the moderator will not have any difference compared to if it would be removed by the user. A work order moderators less. But the order will be more. I have seen problems on other forums when people delete their own posts. For accidental posts, just ask a mod - it may take a few hours for us to see, but once we do it's very easy to do.
Sinist | 2014-11-24 17:48:56 |
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Eurydice | 2014-11-24 23:59:20 |
The community has spoken. What will be the actions taken?
HeadphonesGirl | 2014-11-25 00:30:41 |
The community has spoken. What will be the actions taken? I don't think we need to demand that Cooler make a public showing. It is enough that he acknowledged it and will take what action he deems appropriate. The forums aren't a democracy after all. Cooler | 2014-11-25 07:28:22 |
The community has spoken. What will be the actions taken? Stephanie is not moderator if you're wondering. I hope this would make her a bit happier as she said. Modified by Cooler on 2014-11-25 13:07:22 Eurydice | 2014-11-25 21:24:13 |
... Stephanie is not moderator if you're wondering. I hope this would make her a bit happier as she said.
Thank you. |